Radia Tapes: 121 - Radia, Sunil Arora
Duration: 00:06:11; Aspect Ratio: 1.250:1; Lightness: 0.061; Volume: 0.208; Cuts per Minute: 3.554; Words per Minute: 176.418
(phone rings)
SA: Hello?
NR: Sunil, hi.
SA:
Haanji?
NR: I'm sorry, I've been so caught up in my court case
na...
SA:
Nahin nahin, koi baat nahin... (No, no problem)
NR:
Achha listen, they have approached Ratan to become the chairman of that advisory committee...
SA: Yes, I found out...
NR: Yeah, no, yesterday I spoke to him, he's in Israel right now. He said he's not- I told him I have to send him a note as to what's been going on over the last five years,
SA: hmm
NR: ...and why. But I think he is going to meet the Prime Minister.
SA: hmm
NR: Because I don't... He is not going to do it.
SA: hmm
NR: I said because the only reason they are asking you to do this is because they want you to ratify all the deals that they have done. And all the bad stuff.
SA: That's right, that's right. Exactly
NR: Yeah, so they want credibiliity and all that.
NR: So he said- I told him I'd speak to you,
SA: hmm
NR: - he said can you ask Sunil to give me a 5-7 page letter
SA: hmm
NR: which spells out what has been going on,
SA: hmm
NR: so that when I meet Prime Minister-
SA: When is he meeting Prime Minister?
NR: When he comes back. He is meeting him on Saturday. He is coming back on Friday
SA:
Haan (Okay)
NR: and he'll take(?) time next week.
SA:
Theek hai (Okay)
NR: So he says if you ask him to send me a note,
SA: hmm
NR: which tells me exactly what's been going on,
SA: hmm
NR: and what is the thing. And I've spoken to him about you.
NR: Tarun Das is speaking about you, by the way, to Prime Minister, as soon as he comes back from his G8
SA: hmm
W:
Woh maine toh, aaa, sab... de diya usko... (I gave it all to him)
NR: because Tarun himself has said that I wanted Sunil to become the CII DG.
NR: So.. uh.. He was he was pretty keen and Baijal
ka meeting Friday
ko hai D.K. Nair
ke saath. (Baijal's meeting with DK Nair is on Friday)
SA: hmm
NR:
toh.. the umm.. they're all.. I think everyone is in agreement now.
NR: Jojo,
SA: hmm
NR: -from Times of India is going to run a complete 2 page story on how they've destroyed Air India.
SA:
haan
NR:
Toh,uske liye (And for that...) he knows you quiet well Jojo,he says he's met you a few times.
SA: off the head
dhyaan nahin hai. (I don't know)
NR: Toh, jojo is telling me- Jojo is the Editor-in-Chief at Times Group na.
SA: No no, I know about him, but
NR:
haan
SA: may be once or twice I've met.
Mujhe off-hand
dhyaan nahin hai. haan..
Jojo - Jaideep Bose (TOI)
NR: So he's going to probably send someone across to you, or if you are going to be in Delhi. now, He's in Bombay though.
S:
haan
NR: so who ever is going to write that story, whichever journalist is going to do it.... But they're going to do a massive thing as to how Air India has been raped. They're...
SA: hmm
SA: So When i write for Mr. Ratan Tata,
NR: hmm
SA: do I also mention that uh.. I mean it is note from him. But do I also mention in third person that it is understood that..., there are 2 major issues now- Out 5-6 major issues there 2 issues a) Air India Express.
NR: hmm
SA: On Air India Express, as a Board member, I had raised a series of issues. Officially.
NR: hmm
SA: So can we just write the sentence like - "one of the board members has brought these things to the discussion...board"- or what..? Or would he not like to show that much, this thing?
NR: No I think you should put it down. I think you should write him a note that you're writing to, uh,... is that he will read and he will then translate in whichever way he wants to translate and send it.
SA: Hmm
NR: You understand na.
SA:
Haan haan. Theek hai…Theek hai.
NR: Thats the way it will be.
SA:
haan.
NR: yeah.
SA: Bilateral
toh I will have to check the recent information.
NR: Bilateral,
woh woh woh.. airline deals, the aircraft deals… all that.
SA: Yeah yeah 5-6 things na. One is aircraft deal,
NR: hmm
SA: other is bilateral. Other is Air India Express.
NR: hmm
SA: Other is …this sale and lease back of aircraft. On sale and lease back of aircraft again, it all happened after I left.
NR: hmm.
SA: So I would only, I would also know…sketchy details... but I'll kind of, try to take assistance of one or two people… who have retired. I know one person who has retired who is in touch with me… he used to be in planning. I'll not tell him the purpose ofcourse.
NR: Hmm
SA: Hmm
SA: Vijay Kumar used to be in planning.
NR: hmm
SA: That too planning- and he was dealing with these things and he had been putting up small-small notes. Anyway, I'll make it. Because obviously, he'll meet him only when Prime Minister returns from Italy.
NR: And I also want to offline give him the details
joh tumne bheji thi na, pura dossier.
SA: hmm
NR:
Woh toh main doongi na usko.
SA: That's my letter to Cabinet Secretary
NR: For his own information na.
SA: Eh? No, that i can give you yeah, with you I have no issues.
SA: The issue is that it remains with him, and he destroys it after reading it.
NR: Hmm?!
SA: My letter to Cabinet Secretary,
NR: hmm
SA: he can read and then destroy it.
NR:
Haan, I'll have to give it to him and he'll destroy it. Naturally, he's not going to.. He needs to have a background
ke what the hell are they asking him to do na.
SA:
Haan, then I'll send the letter. I have the letter
NR: You tell me when everything is done, I'll send someone to pick it up.
SA:
Haan.
NR: I also need, separately, ((SMS alert tone)) in your own words.. for Tarun Das.
SA: in?
NR: for Tarun Das.
SA:
haan
NR: For Tarun Das, in your own words, what do you think needs to be done,
NR: but no why should you tell them what should be done, otherwise they will use what has to be done and give it for your benefit na.
SA:
haan.
NR: hmm
SA: That's not that good. I mean that toh… you want me to give that?
(pause)
NR:
Accha dekho Sunil
mujhe ek kaam zaroor hai, ke, you have to -in fact Tarun Das has sent me a sms just now, which I'm just seeing now, which has come on my other phone.
SA: hmm
NR: He wants me to call him urgently. So it must be about this only.
SA: hmm
NR: Let me call him and call you back.
SA: ok.
NR: ok.
Pad.ma requires JavaScript.
